Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/06/1998 09:00 AM Senate HES

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                SCR 19 - PROTOTYPE SCHOOL DESIGN                               
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN moved to adopt CSSCR 19(HES), version F, with the                
handwritten phrase on page 2, line 16, as the working document of              
the committee.  There being no objection, the motion carried.                  
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN explained the changes made in version F as follows:            
     - on page 2, line 16, "K-6" was changed to "elementary" to be             
     consistent with other definitions in statute;                             
     -on page 2, line 16, "bond reimbursement and grant review                 
     committee" was added with the intent that DOE and the                     
     committee work together (that intent also applies to the                  
     resolve clause beginning on line 20);                                     
     -on page 2, line 22, the words "designs and" were added for               
     the purpose of clarification.                                             
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN said that although he does not disagree with                     
incorporating the bond reimbursement and grant review committee                
into the process, the reference to that committee on line 16                   
detracts from the concept of DOE consulting with the design                    
professionals and then with the committee.  Senator Leman indicated            
that the phrase is redundant because line 22 says the same thing.              
He suggested removing the reference to the bond reimbursement and              
grant review committee on page 2, line 16.                                     
                                                                               
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MR. MORGAN stated that regardless of whether it is included in both            
places, DOE will consult with the bond reimbursement and grant                 
review committee.                                                              
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN suggested combining the first part of the line 14              
resolve clause with the last part of the resolve clause beginning              
on line 20 to accomplish their goal.  SENATOR LEMAN suggested                  
removing the phrase "the bond reimbursement and grant review                   
committee" on line 16 because it is already on line 22.                        
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN stated the statutes ask the bond reimbursement and             
grant review committee to work on prototype schools.  The DOE has              
authority to issue money.  The intent is to blend those two                    
activities.  MR. MORGAN thought the resolve clause beginning on                
line 20 fully captures that intent, particularly when combined with            
the statutory language that lays out the committee's duties.                   
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN moved to delete, from line 16, the handwritten words             
"the bond reimbursement and grant review committee," along with any            
other handwritten punctuation.  There being no objection, the                  
motion carried.                                                                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked what words were deleted on line 15 after the             
word "Education."  SHEILA PETERSON, committee aide, answered the               
phrase "the bond reimbursement and grant review committee" was                 
deleted.                                                                       
                                                                               
MR. MORGAN expressed concern about the March 1 deadline in the                 
resolution.  CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked Mr. Morgan to suggest an                    
acceptable date.  MR. MORGAN suggested April 2 so that a second                
meeting of the bond reimbursement and grant review committee could             
be scheduled in March, if necessary.  MR. MORGAN said if the                   
deadline pertains to the incentives only, and not the prototype                
designs, DOE could have recommendations prepared by mid-March.                 
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN moved to change the March 1, 1998 date on line 30,               
page 2, to March 15, 1998.  There being no objection, the motion               
carried.                                                                       
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN commented on a discussion that occurred in a House             
committee yesterday about the definition of "elementary."  MR.                 
MORGAN explained there is a definition in DOE regulations that                 
pertains to facilities.  Because of the space guidelines,                      
elementary is defined as K-6, secondary is defined as 7-12, and                
there is no definition of middle school.  Middle schools, for space            
and construction purposes, are considered the partial amount of                
whatever grades are in elementary and secondary combined.  He noted            
he did not comment on the fact that the original version of SCR 19             
contained K-6 because it made no difference.  During the House                 
committee discussion yesterday, the range of possibilities was                 
raised.  He has not had a chance to determine how many elementary              
schools are on the list but plans to do so in the next few days.               
Mr. Morgan commented that as this topic is explored, he intends to             
look into what other schools will fit, in addition to elementary               
schools because DOE receives many requests from small communities              
for K-12 schools.                                                              
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked Mr. Morgan to provide the committee with a               
copy of the regulation containing the definitions.                             
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN stated the Anchorage School District was interested              
in revising the definitions because the definitions impact funding             
for the various units.                                                         
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN thought what drives the definition is not a statute            
or regulation, but the program that a particular place needs, and              
it could be called almost anything.  MR. MORGAN agreed and said                
that the current definition gives districts maximum flexibility.               
                                                                               
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SENATOR LEMAN repeated his apprehension about directing DOE to                 
develop prototype designs, and said he would prefer that DOE be the            
repository of designs, outline specifications and standard details             
that could be used by designers.  He expressed concern that DOE                
will be unable to develop sufficient numbers of designs for the                
different conditions in Alaska.                                                
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN pointed out this is a major undertaking and is not             
something that can be thrown together by March 15, 1998, but if it             
is done correctly, it can benefit all.  Yesterday, during the                  
discussion in the House, there was discussion about the State                  
imposing school designs upon communities.  He emphasized that is               
not the intent of the resolution.  The goal is to provide a school             
that districts will want and embrace, knowing the school will be               
good for the program the district is trying to put forth in its                
individual communities.                                                        
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD moved CSSCR 19(HES), as amended on line 31, from                  
committee with individual recommendations.  There being no                     
objection, the motion carried.                                                 

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